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By Kathleen Perricone

E! News’ Ken Baker called in to On Air with Ryan Seacrest this morning to talk about a few different topics, including Tori Spelling and Dean McDermott‘s marital issues and the budding romance between Rihanna and Drake.

As for the two music superstars, Ryan had one important question: Are they really dating?

“They are,” says Ken. “I think that it’s now at the point where you’ll see them very soon … on a carpet together, huggy-kissy and be putting it out there. Because we’re seeing it out there in real life. They’re out clubbing, they’re going out to dinner, they’re holing themselves up in hotels for weekends on end.”

As for Chris Brown, Ken adds that the on-off relationship with Rihanna is long over. “A lot of people thought when she first started to hang out with Drake, it was all to get Chris Brown mad and that she was just using Drake. But clearly this has been going on for a long time and its a very serious relationship that has been evolving into a real relationship.”

For more from Ken on Tori and Dean, Drake and Rihanna, and an update on Miley Cyrus‘ health scare, listen to the audio above!